but I am bemused to see all the traditional peaceniks change sides on this. Hmm...so you mean their peacenik stand was about hating the US and espeically hating Trumpiboy, and not really about peace?
I mean: He is doing the same thing that President Obama tried to do, but hey, if Trumpiboy does it it's automatically wrong?
There are arguments on both sides, but I found this one interesting:
Ann Althouse posts an interview with Rand Paul, who notes:
We took ninety-nine percent of the land [from ISIS], they're on the run, can the people who live there not do anything? We spent trillions of dollars arming the entire Middle East, arming Afghan army, can they not do anything? Do we have to do everything? We defeated ISIS. But now you have the-- the hawks in the administration and throughout Congress saying, "Oh, now we have to wait until Russia and Iran leave Syria." Well, that was never our goal and it's never going to happen. So those people are advocating for perpetual war.... .......heh. Sounds like Europe, who still want the US to defend them 70 years after Hitler was defeated and 29 years after the Berlin wall fell, and they get upset when Trumpie boy says: grow up and do it yourself.
the war over who controls the Middle East has been going on for at least 3500 years, so I don't think removing 2000 American troops from Syria (where they never have been authorized by Congress) will make the world end.
True, it might let Iran and Russia take over, but you know, I don't hink Putin is going to let Iran kill 900 thousand Russian Jews who live there, and he will protect the Christian minorities (who are mainly Orthodox Christians) who were being killed by ISIS.
As for the Kurds: Well, Trump is not removing American help from Iraqi Kurdistan, and they can take care of themselves unless Turkey gets too feisty, but you know, Turkey has two million refugees there and would be happy to send them all home...and to do that, they need to get rid of the remnants of ISIS, from StrategyPage a long discussion and more here:
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Short of getting rid of corruption and having people actually follow their religious instructions on how to live in peace, I don't see an answer.
Anyone who reads the Old Testament knows the vicious war history of the region, but actually the wars there predate the bible: yes, I know: Meggido is not in Syria but the battle was about if the Syrians or the Egyptians would control the trade routes to Mesopotamia and the tin mines (to make bronze) of central Asia.
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as for Afghanistan: That's another story and a lot of the mischief there is because the Pakistani military are keeping the Taliban alive, and the heroin drug trade is helping fund it.
Iran has a huge heroin problem, and China wants the place pacified to make their new silk road on land and sea, (not to mention to pacify a pipeline from the central Asian countries that used to belong to Russia) so again there is an argument to let them have the place.link
America has been the policeman of the world and given it the Pax American for the last 70 years, and gotten nothing but scorn, so maybe it's time to leave.
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update: corruption is the big problem.
I laugh when "green" types propose giving money to "poor" countries to counteract climate change: Because it ignores that the money will go right into the pockets of the corrupt.
A lot of the money sent to help the US fight the Islamic terrorists here simply got stolen. Even aid money supposed to rebuild after the huge typhoon in the Visayas got diverted too, as does money supposed to help farmers and projects to improve the infrastructure.
And one dirty little secret is that millions of "miliary aid" sent to rebuild Iraq got diverted, aka stolen by the plutocrats there.
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