Thursday, September 16, 2021

Yes, your immune system remembers

 In a previous post I mentioned that post infection of most antigens/viruses/bacteria/etc. that even if you don't have a lot of antibodies  in your blood, your immune cells keep a memory of that infection and quickly rev up and produce antibodies.

I cited  two articles saying that, one an NIH and another from Japan, but today on reading Legal Insurrection blog, he has a link to a Nature article from May 2021 that says the same thing:

Had COVID? You’ll probably make antibodies for a lifetime 
People who recover from mild COVID-19 have bone-marrow cells that can churn out antibodies for decades, although viral variants could dampen some of the protection they offer...
The study provides evidence that immunity triggered by SARS-CoV-2 infection will be extraordinarily long-lasting. Adding to the good news, “the implications are that vaccines will have the same durable effect”, says Menno van Zelm, an immunologist at Monash University in Melbourne, Australia..

and LI blog notes: 

 

based on previous experience with the global coronavirus pandemic of 1889 and paired with the fact that SARC-CoV was engineered to adhere readily to human respiratory systems, the rules of epidemiology currently followed by the Biden administration may not be applicable.

Some of the more serious scientists are questioning COVID-theology and reassessing whether “herd immunity” is a reasonable goal.

this is especially true given that China, who bragged their shutdown and other covid policies were successful, now is in the midst of a new outbreak.

In other words, there is a reason behind the hysteria against masks and giving vaccines to those who might be immune or be able to survive a case because they are healthy: because like the yearly influenza jab that we used to give mainly to the elderly and high risk groups, ordinary folks just don't need it because their risk from having the disease is low, and because the covid virus, like the Influenza virus, quickly mutates, so that your shot might not work in everyone. That is why you need a yearly flu vaccine, where the docs try to guess what the next strain will be and make the vaccine to stop that new strain.

Having the US President, who is already in trouble politically because of his clueless withdrawal from Afghanistan, push harsh penalties if you don't take the vaccine or follow isolation rules, is not the way to go: because despite all the censorship in the media. the dissenting voices are still out there and are being believed: because they are now catching the experts in lies (such as denying that the US NIH funded the Wuhan lab, and that those funds enabled them to do gain of function studies that were too dangerous to do in the US, and were banned thanks to liberal activists, but the NIH found a way to slip them money with a loophole) 

Indeed, given that the world elites are openly saying that the epidemic proves we need a "reset" of the economy, one does wonder if the hysteria is being hyped so they can do a quick takeover of the world.


Yes, the epidemic is bad: so at first, the hysteria was justified, but now with many in the world either having immunity from the vaccine or from mild cases, the virus is becoming endemic (i.e. around all the time and hitting some people, but at a low rate because most people are immune or have partial immunity meaning they only get mildly sick,  although the high risk are still in danger) rather than epidemic (huge number of cases in populations who have no immunity, which leads to deaths as the medical system is overwhelmed).

And the huge cost of economic shutdown has terrible implications  for poorer countries, who follow the US lead: Manila continues to be in shut down, meaning hunger and poverty will kill many. Duterte is popular (despite the propaganda you read, his war on drugs kept ordinary people safe and they still support him because of this) but with an election coming up, I won't say the same in the future.

By the way: Here is the Wikipedia article on the 1889 epidemic that we assumed was a type of influenza, and indeed some studies confirmed that. But now there is a question if it was a covid virus.

the reason I bring this up: the same folks pushing hysteria to implement strict rules that are limiting civil rights and controlling behavior are also pushing the global warming hysteria again.

Global warming wasn't big in 1889, nor in past epidemics: what made epidemics rare in the modern world was clean water and having enough food to eat. 
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Sheesh: a lab virus that escaped was the cause of the Covid epidemic, not global warming.  But never let an epidemic go to waste.

As a doc, I am aghast at the overreach of authorities here: partly because it is making people distrust not only vaccines but doctors and the public health authorities.

But might I quietly point out that, thanks to vaccines and quarantine, the WHO and other public health authorities stopped epidemics of Yellow fever in Angola (which spread to China before it was controlled) and how new vaccines are now keeping a huge Ebola epidemic under control in Central Africa.

similarly, the big killer is not something exotic, but diarrhea, which can be stopped by clean water supplies (and for cholera and rotovirus, by vaccines).

Bet you never heard of these epidemics, because they can't be weaponized for political purposes in the west.

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update
FDA panel says boosters needed only for high risk people.

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