Tuesday, October 10, 2023

Gaslighting and lies anyone/?

 Manipulating people by gaslighting and by ridicule.

a lesson on how good, loyal folk can be manipulated by sociopaths and narcissists. 

Right now, when the Pope is spreading confusion by contradictory statements,manipulations, lies, gaslighting,  and by saying both A and B at different times: so that if you quote A YOU are the problem because he also said B... if you object, you are accused of of disloyalty by his minions. 

There is a lot of similar gaslighting and lies are going on in the latest shennanigans of the so called Synodal meeting in Rome.

 The assumption is that meetings let all have a say. But anyone who has been at some such meetings know this is nonsense: They are to manipulate you into group think.

We had done to us in the 1960s and 1970s... a meeting supposed to represent everyone stressing that everyone should give their honest opinion... but the meeting is run by those with an agenda and includes extras who are known to agree with the predetrmined agenda. So even if you suspect many in the group agree with you, they keep quiet in the face of criticism... Don't disagree with them, or you are called disloyal or rigid or a hundred variations of stupid... easier to keep quiet.

Am I being cynical? Yup. 

The dirty little secret about all this synodality stuff is that these meetings have the conclusion predecided by those running it: they are a sham meetings. 

We saw Pope Francis pull this trick a couple of years ago in a meeting about the family, where the plan was to have the bishops approve of allowing divorced and remarried outside the church to receive the sacraments although living in sin. 

Some bishops notieced the already prewritten report (italics mine) on the meeting included this, so they made it known and that part was removed: But someone snuck it in in a small footnote, and voila soon the Pope was telling bishops on the phone it was okay, pointing to the footnote to support his opinion. 

Yup. The footnote trick of sleezy crooked lawyers, and no one said: Wait a second. Because loyalty to the Pope. (italics and sarcasm mine).

Ah, but is he pope when the election was irregular and manipulated by a powerful group who wanted to change the church? Not my area of expertise, but a lot of people are questioning it because it was politically manipulated by the StGallen group.

what about now? Is unity and niceness is more important than calling out a liar? That is what we see in the Trad community: Respect above all else.

 Mr Matt, call your office

Sigh.

the latest atrocity?

when asked point blank by four important bishops if he supported blessing of gay couples, a ceremony that the press and the woke are insisting is the church's stealth way to approve of gay marriage, the Pope, after saying marriage is sacred, went on to ignore common sense and reality when he said no this is charity and individuals could discern by themselves whether or not to do it. LINK

Excuse me, I am a physician.

I often treat people whose behavior is literally killing themselves. 

I am charitable and try to help them, but I would not be a good physician if I said: OK go ahead and pig out on junk food to someone who is obese, or it's okay to have a double chocolate shake to a diabetic, or don't tell a person with COPD to stop smoking, or say hey, one or two drinks are okay to a known alcoholic, or tell a person or a couple joints on a weekend won't hurt you, when you suspect that the person is into all sorts of drug use because his grandmother keeps losing her pain pills from her purse.

this might work for ordinary folk, but we docs know that there are some who will twist what we said to justify their dangerous behavior.

Ditto with sexual practices that endager one's health.

So do you follow common sense and recognize reality, or do you pretend everything is sweetness and light and evil does not exist.

So the Pope pretends what he is doing is charity, but what he is actually doing is sending a message that wink wink it's okay to have sex outside of marriage, and in today's world that means people will think the Pope said that there is nothing is wrong with promiscuity... 

because it might hurt their feelings if you say: do this you are endangering your health (STDs, MPox), your family, your children's welfare, or in this case endangering your soul


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